Commons:Deletion requests/File:Winifred Mason Cuff Bracelet.jpg

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File:Winifred Mason Cuff Bracelet.jpg

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The bracelet itself surely is ©. The artist died ~1993(?) Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 00:39, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Winifred Mason is the copyrigth owner of the Bracelet.The photo was found on pinterest. The uploader, Luis, is the Director of Community Engagement at the Wikimedia Foundation. There something wrong here!!! give it a few days for a responce from Luis, before we delete it...--Tarawneh (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see he already commneted. Why wasn't that rendered!!!!!--Tarawneh (talk) 12:43, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not commenting

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I don't feel comfortable commenting in any depth on this, for any number of reasons. (Lawyer, former WMF lawyer, etc.) If the decision is for deletion, please poke my user page so that I can upload to enwiki (as there is a clear US fair use rationale aside from the museum's explicit license). Thanks. LuisVilla (talk) 17:39, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@LuisVilla: As a former WMF employee you should be aware that Commons can't accept Fair use. Why don't you want to help keeping the media on Commons when you feel that there is a legal way? Doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you have the knowledge, share it. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 18:05, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 DeleteThe source at the Brooklyn gives it CC-BY, which might be OK, but they do not say whether that is the copyright for the photo, the copyright for the bracelet, or both. That makes me uncomfortable. The museum staffer that posted the photo might well have noted that the photo was made by the Museum and therefore could be CC-BY without even thinking about the copyright for the bracelet. I think that in order to keep this we need a clear free license to both copyrights from an authorized official of the museum via OTRS. We also need to know what attribution they actually want -- perhaps "Winifred Mason bracelet, photo by Brooklyn Museum"? .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:13, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete Where there is evidence of a pattern that releases were documented for donated objects, then it would be reasonable to go along with the museum's statement, even if Commons volunteers never have sight of releases. In this case the museum's general statement puts the onus on the Commons volunteer, and as Luis would rather fall back on fair use rather than shaping a case for "reasonableness", I'm not that confident that the CC release is for anything other than the museum's photograph. --Fæ (talk) 20:37, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. @LuisVilla: OTRS needed from the artist. Ruthven (msg) 13:03, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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